Hoje, aula ao vivo com DeRose
sábado, 24 de novembro de 2012 | Autor:

Você nunca pensou nisso, não é? Mas 99% da veterinária não visa o bem-estar dos animais. Toda a veterinária bovina, suína, ovina, equina, avícola só tem o objetivo de contemplar as conveniências dos criadores e seus lucros.

E quanto à veterinária de animais de estimação, como cães e gatos?

Também essa especialização privilegia o bem-estar dos donos. Por exemplo, quando recomendam que se lhes dê ração ao invés de comida comum do ser humano. É uma questão de comodidade e economia para os proprietários de pets. Para os animais pode ser extremamente enfadonho comer todos os dias a mesma coisa. E há denúncias de que as rações estão contribuindo para o desenvolvimento de câncer nos animaizinhos, devido à qualidade suspeita da procedência das matérias primas e à utilização abusiva de corantes, aromatizantes e conservantes cancerígenos.

Outra evidência dessa postura é a recomendação de que só se forneça uma refeição por dia e que se retire a comida se o animal não a comer imediatamente. Você já imaginou ser submetido a um regime em que só pudesse comer uma vez por dia? Além do sofrimento da fome, você ficaria ávido e quando tivesse comida à sua frente comeria mais do que o ideal. Por isso, alguns cães morrem por torção do estômago, por encher demais a barriga.

Mais um motivo de dar comida uma só vez ao dia é que quando os cães comem, eles precisam defecar em seguida. Seria desconfortável ao ser humano levar os cães para passear várias vezes por dia, após cada refeição. Então é melhor deixá-los passar fome.

Minha cachorra Jaya fica com a comida à disposição o dia todo. E ainda ganha frutas (no mínimo três maçãs e três bananas) ao longo do dia. Com isso, ela só come o que precisa e pára de ingerir o alimento quando está satisfeita, deixando o restante para mais tarde, pois sabe que vai estar ali sempre que ela quiser. Ah! E não custa informar: ela é vegetariana. É uma cadela de grande porte muito saudável, ágil, inteligente, astuta, carinhosa e extremamente forte. Come frutas, legumes, hortaliças, queijos, iogurtes e ração vegetariana. Se essa ração não for muito melhor do que a carnívora, pelo menos ela a ingere em menor proporção.

E o que dizer daqueles cães que comem e não podem defecar porque só vão passear à hora que seus humanos decidirem? Já imaginou você precisando ir ao banheiro o dia todo e não podendo porque seria humilhado com uma bronca feia e talvez até fosse punido fisicamente por ter se aliviado? Pois essa tortura é imposta aos cães com a maior naturalidade.

A solução que adotei foi destinar um pequeno espaço revestido com jornais, dentro de casa, a fim de servir como banheiro para a Jaya. É um pouco trabalhoso estar recolhendo os dejetos e desinfetando o local o tempo todo. Mas o conforto dela vale o investimento.

Em tempo: nosso veterinário é um querido e faz um trabalho realmente amoroso com a Jaya. Se quiser, posso indicá-lo.

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Onde encontrar rações vegetarianas:

Nem todas as rações são veganas, mas todas são vegetarianas.

Rações Fri-Ribe
http://www.fri-ribe.com.br
Fri-Dog Premium – Vegetariana – Ração 100% vegetal, com 25% de proteínas, à venda no Brasil. Recomendada para alimentação diária de cães adultos de todas as raças e portes.

Fridog
http://www.racao.vegetariana.pop.com.br
Fri-Dog Premium – Vegetariana – Ração 100% vegetal, com 25% de proteínas, à venda no Brasil.

Benevo
http://www.efeitoverde.com ou em http://www.centrovegetariano.org/loja
Ração vegana para cães e gatos, sem OGM, nem corantes ou conservantes sintéticos.

Yarrah
http://www.yarrah.com
Informações e vendas Porto: 916225263, 933300879; Lisboa: 214852573, 937850434
Uma gama completa de alimentos biológicos para cães e gatos, com algumas rações, biscoitos e snacks 100% vegetarianos para cães.

Petemotions
http://www.petemotions.com
Techni-Cal Vegetarian – Ração vegetariana para cães à venda online. Entregas dentro de Portugal continental.

Vegetarian Society do Reino Unido
http://www.vegansociety.com
Possibilidade de encomendar pela Internet, principalmente suplementos vegecat.

Veggie Pets
http://www.veggiepets.com/acatalog/vegetarian_cat_food.html
Loja online com rações vegetarianas e veganas para cães e gatos, de várias marcas disponíveis no mercado.

Amí
http://ami.aminews.net
Produtos alimentares totalmente vegetarianos para cães e gatos. Sem corantes, nem conservantes nem produtos transgénicos.

Referências:
http://www.vegetarianismo.com.br/animais.html
http://www.vegepets.info

  1. Autor: cris campos

    Mestre, querido!!!
    É exatamente o que sempre pensei!!!
    Tenho duas meninas aqui em casa (Agatha e Esmeralda), duas gatinhas que parecem gente e elas tem criação bem parecida com a da sua Jaya.
    Esse ano mudaremos para uma casa e o Gabri, meu filhote, já encomendou um cachorro, portanto, a família vai aumentar!!! rsrsrs… Obrigada pelas dicas de onde encontrar ração.
    Beijos super coloridos com alguns ron-rons…
    Cris.

    DeRose |

    Disponha, querida. Qualquer dúvida, jogue no blog. Se eu não souber, alguém saberá sugerir algo.

  2. Autor: Juliana Toro

    Ai Mestre..o homem e suas interpretações erradas da vida.
    Somos irmãos dos animais,não superiores a eles.

    Vou passar o texto para todo mundo!

    beijos muitos muitos pra vc e a Jaya querida!

    Juju =D
    Treze Tílias – SC

    (hoje,14 dias para o shádana!! =D)

    DeRose |

    Obrigado. B-joletas cintilantes.

  3. Autor: Yael Barcesat

    Hace falta sensibilidad a prueba de paradigmas para hacer esta lectura, muy esclarecedora!
    Gracias y besos desde Mendoza, donde el Método está germinando día a día.

    Yael – Buenos Aires

    DeRose |

    Eh! Que buena notícia! Besitos.

  4. Autor: Daniel Cardoso

    Lendo esse post realmente percebo que nem sempre satisfazemos as vontade dos nosso bichinhos, o veterinário que cuida de Nandi, meu rotweiiler recomendou que eu desse osso de patinho ( uma parte do boi) para fortalecer o maxilar e aumentar o tamanho da cabeça, não aceitei a recomendação e decidi substituir por cenoura congelada, talos de brócolis outro legumes crus, além disso ele adora frutas. Assim vejo que é possível cuidarmos melhor do nosso cãozinho.

    Beijos Mestre.

    Daniel Cardoso
    Salvador-BA

    DeRose |

    E há brinquedos bem duros que eles adoram destruir e são excelentes para reforçar dentes e maxilares.

  5. Autor: Roberto Carvalho

    Bom dia mestrão!
    Hoje 14 de fevereiro é dia de San Valentín!
    No Brasil se comemora o dia dos namorados no dia 12 de junho, ainda assim como Buenos Aires está em um clima romântico aproveito para mandar um beijo e amor a todas shaktís e shaktas deste mundo afora!

    DeRose |

    Obrigado, Roberto. foi uma lembrança bem simpática. Beijos para você também.

  6. Mestre:
    I would like to post the complete transcript of your Europe interview so you can look it over, review it, and let me know how I can improve it.
    Thank you for the opportunity to see this work through until the end. It is an true honor.
    Sincerest regards,
    Instr. John Conway Chisenhall
    Sede Decana – Argentina

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    António Mateus Interview with DeRose, Europe 2009 (Duration 1 hour)

    MATEUS–Professor DeRose, your philosophy encourages individuals to be more lucid, more conscious, and more interactive in society. Is that right?

    DEROSE–That is the proposition, that with a select group of techniques, and concepts, an average person can reach a state of expanded consciousness. Now, whether or not this is achieved will depend on a number of factors. These include the individual’s genetic make-up, as well as certain controllable factors, such as dedication, the investment of time practicing the philosophy, and the environment where the person lives. Success will depend significantly on the cultural baggage they carry with them, determined by their profession, and the age at which they began practicing. Therefore, it is affected by a constellation of factors.

    MATEUS– Is it possible for individuals to reshape themselves, becoming more integrated in society?

    DEROSE–Each individual is a different reality, therefore the techniques themselves–for example, the cerebral oxygenation–will react differently within each one.

    MATEUS– Does the DeRose Method have a motive, an objective to accomplish in sculpting this individual?

    DEROSE–Yes. Our goal to raise the individual to a state of hyper-consciousness, a state of mega-lucidity which is, actually, the direction in which Humanity is headed.

    MATEUS–When today’s society has no model–either for the individual, or for the community–your Culture could be the proposition that is missing. These individuals, obviously different, more lucid, more conscious–what impact will they have on society, and how will they be able to make a difference?

    DEROSE–When persons become more lucid, the first thing that occurs is that they begin to see improvements at work, in family relations, in their commitment to any ideal, be it political, humanitarian, philanthropic, artistic, or anything else; and, moreover, they feel integrated, because, until one attains complete consciousness, he believes that the world is divided between “me and them.” The moment that their consciousness expands, they perceive that the concept of “me and them” does not exist. We are all one, interconnected–not only within the human species but also among all species–with the planet and with the Cosmos. And, this state of expanded consciousness is attainable, but normally when someone mentions their intention to achieve said state of consciousness, another person who can not even imagine what it is–who has not read anything about it, who has not studied it, who has not had it explained to them–could assume it is an unattainable ideal, and suppose it is a fantasy. It turns out that many people have already achieved this state of consciousness. Therefore it is reality.

    MATEUS–This state of hyper-consciousness, lucidity, how does it translate into day-to-day life?

    DEROSE–In day-to-day life, it translates into objective participation, what we call “effective action,” because many people have initiative, but few have the ability to follow through. Therefore, one of the things that an expanded consciousness, expanded lucidity, offers us is the perception that it is not enough to simply talk, nor to have intention, it is necessary to have initiative, follow through, and get the end result for all aspects of the individual’s life–their family, their friends, their foes, for all of society, for social responsibility, for environmental responsibility. That is, they are going to expand their degree of influence, they are no longer indigent, they will no longer be an individual who is unheard, without a voice, nor a vote. Each becomes a person who acts and changes the world in which they live. And, being that this person, in general, is a person with noble ideals, when they change the world in which they live, they change it for the better.

    MATEUS–How does the individual accomplish this with your Culture? What instruments, what tools are used to do this?

    DEROSE–Our Culture–I call it “Our Culture,” with an uppercase “O” and an uppercase “C”, because it is a combination of concepts and tequniques–it is a philosophy; it is a lifestyle. Our Philosophy, Our Culture, proposes that the individual accomplish this by progressively and spontaneously reeducating their behavioral patterns. We do not approve of indoctrination; therefore, indoctrination is excluded. Nor do we approve of repression. Without indoctrination and without repression, the best means is by example. It is an act of coexistence. It is to accept a group that is already dedicated to these ideals. And, from that moment on, the concepts are incorporated with much more ease. And, with respect to the techniques, it is only a matter of individual dedication, practice, and execution of them.

    MATEUS–Could we compare this type of intervention with that of fine-tuning an orchestra? Like assembling violins, flutes, and conducting them in the same direction?

    DEROSE–It certainly is. We are going to synchronize all the elements that constitute the human being. Not only body and mind, but body, energy, bio-energy, emotional, the mind, the intuition. Ultimately, all of the elements are going to work together, as you so well expressed, like an orchestra. And then, we are going to go beyond the individual, which is ideal. To not stay in their small world, within their personal universe. By going beyond, this orchestra also becomes the family orchestra, the orchestra at work–the orchestra of their art, of all the elements, people, individuals, and circumstances of that environment.

    When you begin expanding your perspective, you start to consider the world to be very small, because you reach out to people, through diverse methods. In the past, it was through writing, it was through books, and before that, the pilgrims. Today we are able to reach people electronically. We can write on our computers and at the same time be read by people around the world and soon, perhaps, even beyond.

    MATEUS–Carl Sagan argues to the contrary, that the subject is contaminated and polluted by society. Your Culture proposes the opposite. It encourages the individual to be active, aware, and involved.

    DEROSE–But I agree with Sagan. Society corrupts the individual. But, if the individual had the power to uncorrupt society–and that is the proposal, for you to genuinely perceive that society has this power, that the cultural environment in which a person lives, the environment has an influence on us. We are products of the environment. We are fruits of the culture in which we were educated, in which we live. If we are conscious of this power of the environment to corrupt, and refuse to passively accept this corruption, then at that point we reverse the process.

    MATEUS–This counterculture model of an active, not passive, individual goes hand in hand with what I referred to earlier, that it is a more lucid and conscious perspective. This lucidity is also related to the individual’s awareness of how outside influences can be harmful to them, is that correct?

    DEROSE–That is. But it is important to remember that this proposal–though revolutionary in terms of behavior–is not aggressive in the bad sense. It is not violent. In other words, we are not opposing that which is already established. We do not want people to simply change and adopt Our Philosophy. The proposal is that those who already think this way do not feel alone–that these individuals realize that there are others who think the same way. Therefore, we can come together, communing an ideal and share ideas, practices, a lifestyle, mode of developing friendships, build relationships in such a way that we consider ourselves more civilized, which is much more loving, which is much more tolerant.

    MATEUS–Your Culture offers not only a proposal for an individual’s inner self, but also in the manner in which they interact with the other human beings around them, with the world around them. Is this a new aesthetic and a new ethic?

    DEROSE–Yes, because the concept of an inner-self presupposes that there is a conflict between the internal and external reality. Our Culture, DeRose Culture, does not interpret the individual and the world as independent entities. For example, take the concept of the body and soul, which is an antagonism between the spiritual and nature, or the physical body. On the other hand, we interpret these concepts (inner-self and external realities) as being unified. By integrating these concepts, the individual achieves much more and with better results.

    MATEUS–When the governments of today have little or no concern with defining a model for citizens, concerning the model society we should aspire to. Being that societal issues are not purely material, such as settling financial accounts, it is necessary to have a new perspective on the individual’s quality of life. And your Cultural proposal responds precisely to this issue. Is the solution a more lucid and active person, who knows in which direction they want to progress?

    DEROSE–Exactly. And always under the shelter of tolerance. Because, if not, we run the risk of inventing a new religion, which is absolutely not the objective. Ours is an educational proposition, a cultural proposition, a proposition to lead the individual toward a higher civility, culture, education, artistic sense, sensibility, and, as you said before, ethics and etiquette as well. Etiquette is a small ethic. That means we have a big ethic, and we have the other ethic, the etiquette applied day-to-day–in the relationships within a particular society–to which we must adapt. Because when we make a comprehensive proposal like this, we know that there is a Christian culture, a Hindu culture, a Jewish culture and an Islamic culture, and we cannot create a proposition that adapts to only one of these cultures.

    MATEUS–Professor DeRose, this completely changes the dynamic of the world around us. What possibilities open up?

    DEROSE–The possibilities, I see them as big. Now, their realization is always slow, because changing paradigms is very difficult for humans. We were designed and constructed in such a way that, from the moment we learn a particular concept or procedure, we are unable to change. Therefore, when we transmit these lessons, we have to remember that they are basically for youth, young adults–those who are active, those who are dynamic entrepreneurs, politicians, artists, or in any other field. And they still have the ability to process a transformation in their lifestyle.

    MATEUS–Martin Luther King spoke of a dream that he had–“I have a dream…” John Lennon left his mark with music–“Imagine all the people…” Nelson Mandela gave up his freedom for this dream. The visionary DeRose, how does he describe this dream?

    DEROSE–I don’t know if I would say visionary. Because our work is extremely grounded, it is very objective oriented; it deals directly with individuals in the world they live in. In other words–without subjectivity, without theorizing, without assumptions. Ideas, yes, but with great caution, as I said earlier, to ensure that these ideas do not become radical. Radical, to some extent, is fine. It has its roots. We have our roots. Radical, up to a certain point, but fanaticism must be avoided. Hence, my caution with the word visionary. Rather, the purpose is to teach these concepts so the individual can actually apply them. That it not be simply a nice thought, a nice discussion, but that they go back to their business and make it function, modifying the structure and the administration of the business, turning every employee, every collaborator, into an individual with value, who has potential that is creative and is a human. Not to situate the employee and the employer as opposing forces in a tug-of-war, but to bring everyone together to push in the same direction. This consists of the progression of the individual, and further, the progression of society.

    MATEUS–When you imagine–going back to “Imagine” by John Lennon–when you dream about the future, what do you dream? Do you see what lies ahead on this journey?

    DEROSE–In “Imagine” I see a creed. Because what he proposes is really revolutionary. It even surprised me how there were not more harsh reactions to his message, because it is beautiful, but at the same time he talks about the individual overcoming the limitations of nationality, the restrictions of borders. Obviously, the majority of the world’s population, governments, and leading powers do not like this. The desire that everyone be one people, one humanity. And “no religion, too.” All religions as well, would probably have somewhat of a reserved reaction. But that didn’t happen. The music is beautiful and what we see is that the words are accepted by the general public, including by the government, by the leading powers, and, in general, by the religions. The people liked it because he knew how to say it. And they probably liked John Lennon before he became more of an activist. When he arrived in New York, his activism got more aggressive.

    MATEUS–However, when you mobilize your instructors–your family, your DeRose thought group–you are constructing a future. What is on the horizon for someone with this lifestyle?

    DEROSE–I see, in the short term, people who are happier and healthier, with better quality of life. Because this is really what our techniques provide first, better quality of life. In the medium-term, I see prosperity. Because, a person with better quality of life–a person who is more tolerant, who knows how to conduct oneself with others, with his superiors and assistants, who knows how conduct oneself with his clients and suppliers, who knows how to conduct oneself in his relationships with friends and family–this person is in control. A person who converts himself into a genuine leader, charismatic in his respective environment. Therefore, in the medium-term, this provides stability in relationships, in the family and at work. The result is prosperity. Thus, in the medium-term, I see this in our family; in other words, with our practitioners.

    This is already happening, we have been working in this direction for half a century, 50 years. Therefore, I have seen, followed what has been happening. People begin to achieve stability, prosperity, happiness, and longer life expectancy.

    This life expectancy is based on the good habits that we encourage because Our Philosophy teaches not to use drugs, not to use alcohol, and not to smoke, and to look for healthy habits. This, far from making life mundane, makes life much more interesting, by increasing one’s lucidity, if they are not under the influence of any drugs. Even alcohol is a drug, a legal drug, but it’s a drug, and one of the strongest psychotropic drugs. Consequently, if not under the influence of any of these toxic substances which interfere which consciousness, the persons are happier, more lucid, they perceive the world differently and, consequently, the world and life are much more fun. The person is indeed happier. And, in the long-term, the goal is that state of expanded consciousness that leads us to self-knowledge.

    (Minuto 20:20)

    MATEUS–Is this the objective at the individual level?

    DEROSE–In the scope of the individual, self-knowledge. And, if one day all of humanity is able to reach this state, we are going to have a very different humanity from what we have today, because today we are moving toward drastic solutions. We always notice that, at the same time, nations are in armed conflict. So if we could get, if not all of humanity, at least those who have the power of decision-making, those who create laws, those who declare wars–if all of these individuals were in a better state of consciousness, an expanded state, a state of hyper-consciousness, we would have a much more harmonious world. Because, today we see that, many times, in many countries, the government does not want quality of life and evolution for its people. After all, if the people become more lucid, they are capable of removing it from power.

    Therefore, we are in a moment that, in consideration of our ideals for the future, we are not in a good moment, and this is demonstrated precisely by the conflicts that we see between various religions throughout the world. But if, step by step, gradually, without any intention to convert anyone, but if, little by little, this starts to work, in the sense of reaching the general public, I really believe that we will have, in the future, a very different world. Today it is already different if we think about it, if we compare the quality of life and the level of consciousness, not simply in terms of culture, not simply in terms of information, but the level of consciousness of the majority of the population compared with 200, 500 years ago, 800 years ago, we are on an ascending curve.

    MATEUS–You return to the foundations of our existence in Eu me lembro (I Remember), like someone gaining their balance preparing to jump. Where does this jump lead us?

    DEROSE–Well, in the first place, this return to the origins is going to take us to a period in which, a civilization–I remember is fiction, but is set in a place, in a period, in a civilization in which, as far as we know through history, through archeology, this civilization, these people lived in harmony. The people had quality of life; the citizen was respected. They did not find architecture dedicated to the monarch, nor for the clergy; rather they found very comfortable houses for the general population.

    We are talking about a proto-historic period–a period immediately before the rise of historic records. And historians frequently have studied archeology in order to be able put together a little of the history of that people.

    That epoch, imagine, was 5000 years ago, was 3000 before Christ. In this epoch, in this civilization, called the Indo Valley Civilization, cities were already extremely well urbanized, sanitized. Homes for the general population had two and more stories, common living areas with internal ventilation, with the bathroom inside the house, with running water. But this, 3000 years before Christ, is unbelievable. When they discovered this, the archeologists themselves worried about telling the academies of science because they would be considered liars. So it was revealed very slowly. They began to invite other archeologists, from other countries, to go to see for themselves. It was an exceptional civilization for the period and even comparable to some regions of our planet today.

    Accordingly, imagine that the environment in which this history, this fiction takes place, is in a happy community. It is a healthy community, a stable community, a prosperous community, within the limits of the historic period. And, revisiting those origins are, we would say, very close to the origins of civilization itself, we can learn something from them. That something was later lost.

    With the introduction of the patriarchal civilization, that which was matriarchal, the original–considering even the primitive, non-warlike, societies all tended toward matriarchal, and the patriarchal societies were all warlike. Consequently, that alone sets the parameters, so that we know that the patriarchal society needs war, because the ultra-masculine, very patriarchal structure man is based on testosterone and that is dangerous. Testosterone should be put into the bombs that are thrown on the heads of enemies, because it is very explosive. Now, matriarchal society, it favors the mother, favors affection, favors the womb, favors the bosom. It is another way of seeing the world, another way of organizing the family, another way of organizing the State. And, without wars, this community is obviously able to dedicate its time and economic resources to art–for example–to dance, to paint, to sculpture. And, without repression, because the matriarchal society, in general, is not repressive. The patriarchal society, in general, is. Therefore, without repression, imagine where these artistic and cultural impulses of the community lead too.

    MATEUS–In (your book) I remember, you return to a idealistic past and then transport us to a more tangible reality, where tangible aspects, such as writing instruments, language in itself, are appreciable. It is almost as if it were an anthropological vision. Since you do not lure your readers without a purpose, where would you like to take us with this story?

    DEROSE–This book, I Remember, is a fantasy, because the I share memories of the past; but this past is nothing spiritual, it is a history. Therefore, taking the reader to that cultural reality, to that civilization, to that way of life, I am proposing that the readers have an internal debate, with respect to the viability of the manner in which they relate with their children, with their parents, with their friends, with their enemies, in the intimate relationships, with the people that they love. Thus, perhaps that can make a contribution. Now, where is the line between fantasy, fiction, myth, or reality, I leave that for the reader to discover.

    MATEUS–However, the second part of the book has an almost anthropological nature to it – it is no longer purely fiction?

    (28:40 minutes)

    DEROSE–The fiction to which I am referring is the story itself. I used the maximum number of tangible elements, facts, and historic data possible to build the foundation of the story. I saw the possibility to first attract the reader’s heart, which is why in the beginning the book is so sweet, amiable; later it is romantic, and finally it is, as we say, more philosophical. Toward the end, the book loses a little of its sweetness, because as we mature we become more realistic. It is the story of a person growing up. First, they are a child so they have a more imaginative vision of the world. Later, they become an adult. At that time people became adults at the age of 15; it was the age in which they were able to reproduce, build a family. And, aging early, they were already elders at the age of 30. At that moment, they look at the world in a more consistent, more cautious, more prudent manner. I tried to transmit a little of our philosophy in the text–not much, just a little, because the book is small. It is one of the shorter books I have written.

    MATEUS–It might be the smallest in size, but I felt that it was one of the most inspiring, because there are many messages hidden between the lines.

    DEROSE–That’s right, even a revolutionary message, in the good sense–a message that subverts bad habits and the structure of civil union in our world. Not with the intention to demolish anything, but in the sense of suggesting that the reader stop and think: “This proposal seems interesting after all! Who knows, perhaps we could try it. Let’s try, let’s use this with the family; let’s apply these procedures with our friends.”

    MATEUS–When you, for example, promote in one of your arguments to defend liberty as a primary pillar of our existence, and when it conflicts with discipline, liberty should always prevail.

    DEROSE–This argument is absolutely categorical. It proclaims that liberty is our most precious possession.

    (31:27 minutes)

    MATEUS–Nevertheless, we need to have internal and existential discipline to be able to defend our values. Where do the two lines cross?

    DEROSE–The continuation of this thought says that if discipline violates liberty, choose liberty. How do we temper these two forces? Discipline is fundamental, but if the discipline of a specific group–any type of group, a political group, a sports group, a soccer club, it does not matter–if this group has rules and these rules, this discipline, violates my freedom, I should prioritize liberty. How? By fighting, going up against it? No! By disassociating myself from it.

    Clearly, that group is not for me. That business, that high school, that college, that club is not right for me, because its norms are an infringement on my liberty. So, I leave the group trying to preserve the friendships and find my group. If we could do this, instead of clashing head on, we would be able to enjoy a much better life.

    And, of course, I respect those who think otherwise. Some have the opinion that, to defend a point of view, we need to fight, scream, insult, assault, make a controversy. It is a matter of temperament, of education, of character. Okay. But this is another group. Whenever possible, I try to stay from it.

    MATEUS–You, for example, value discipline, rigor, uniformity, and this collective implies that the individual is secondary. Is that correct?

    DEROSE – No. Our discourse implies that everything someone says is valid, as long as it does not offend anyone, as long as it does not infringe on anyone’s liberty, and it must be well founded in tolerance. If we can achieve this amalgam, which is alchemical, if we achieve this, we discover a fine balance, because, it is really is an equilibrium on a very straight path. A breeze can cause you to fall to one side, into an extreme of intolerance and discipline at all costs, or toward the other side, of excessive tolerance, of complacency with failure.

    MATEUS–Your Culture works, on the other hand, on the extremes. Should we work on that which we find difficult–our weaker points, or more positive points?

    DEROSE– I do not know if I would put it that way, because that sort of christianizes the concept a little, exacerbating the notion of good and evil. And, our suggestion is to always be conscious that good and bad are always relative. “You are wrong.” But, wrong in relation to what? With respect to what moment? Richelieu once said, that to be or not to be a traitor is a question of information. That is basically it, with respect to right and wrong. In which society, in which religion is this right or is this wrong? You enter into a Catholic church and remove your hat as a sign of respect. Then, you enter into a Synagogue and put one on as a sign of respect. I remember that once we went to visit a Sikh temple, in India, and they asked us to cover our heads. Even the camera they themselves were using to film the ritual was covered in a sign of respect, with a white cloth. I concluded, therefore, that it was all convention. And we have to be conscious of this every time we are led to believe, within the cultural tradition in which we find ourselves, that something is good or bad. “This is their bad side.” “This was a mistake.” Perhaps, observing under a different perspective, it is not so. It is better to consider: this perhaps was not appropriate, at this moment, or in this group. Not that it is bad, or that it is wrong. Another sútra (aphorism) says that evil is the name given to the seed of good. Because everything “evil” or “bad” that happened to you in your life, you can observe that sooner or later, produces very good results.

    MATEUS–Putting into practice the clarity of the conscious citizen, the lucid individual on the road to the state of hyper-consciousness, this subject needs a vision of direction. As someone who is going to run a long distance race must know, in order to motivate oneself, where they are going. Your Culture, how does it deal with this sense of reason?

    DEROSE–We try to imagine that it is a wonderful trip by train to a particular destination. As you travel, you look at the beautiful scenery outside, talk with a friend inside, enjoy a meal in the dining car, rest, sleep a little. You enjoy the pleasure of the trip. This way, you arrive faster. But if this person just keeps thinking, “I have to get there, my destiny, my destiny, my destiny,” the trip seems long and unpleasant. With respect to the goal, our recommendation is, do not worry about the goal. Enjoy the community. In general, the people who follow this system are interesting, beautiful people, inside and out. They are educated and sensitive people, who are able to have a discussion with anyone.

    MATEUS–Nevertheless, Professor DeRose, when we see, for example, a conservative society that says women should fill a role in society, that they should live for their husbands, for their children, for their appearances, and this state of self-expression enables them to deconstruct these confines. Does the conservative society not immediately react against this principle?

    DEROSE–No, because we do not criticize the traditions of the many societies around the world. And, as Our Philosophy does not intend to proselytize, it does not try to expand and recruit followers from other philosophies, much less religions. Therefore, the reaction has never been negative. There has never been any opposition or resistance.

    MATEUS–But there could be, with respect to the realm of the family. For example, if I am not aware of a certain light, I feel lost in my tunnel of darkness and, suddenly, a light at the end of the corridor appears, and I, suddenly, begin to walk with enthusiasm toward that light. And, if the tunnel of darkness is a product of the conservative structure that society has created around me, I rebel against it. At least I walk in the opposite direction. Does this division not lead to conflict?

    DEROSE–Normally, the following occurs. Consider a couple, a family, when just one of the two adopts this philosophy, it is as if one of the two were to adopt a political party or a religion different from that of their partner. And, this could lead to communication problems.

    Therefore, we recommend the following: if you evolve, if you adopt a philosophy whose purpose is to evolve more, develop more civility and more clarity, the person who has changed is you. Because both of you married, each with a perception of the other, and each accepted their partner as they were. There was an arrangement, the rules of the game were established, and then you changed the rules in the middle of the game. Your partner–who is not taking it well–is not wrong; you are wrong. So you need to have more patience with your partner, more tolerance, try to encourage them; don’t force it. Perhaps by setting an example, showing him or her you are a better person.

    MATEUS–And, if the other person wants to live under other conditions? If they choose the cake for its appearance and not for what is on the inside?

    DEROSE–It’s rare. Normally, if the process unfolds as I mentioned, with tolerance, with patience and seduction, captivating the other person instead of demanding a position, according to what we have observed over the years, over decades, the partner usually joins them because they like what they are seeing. They notice that their partner is better–a better father or mother, a better husband or wife, a better lover, partner or friend. Therefore, in general, they end up coming together again.

    MATEUS–In your book Encounter with the Master, the young DeRose encounters a mature DeRose, a Master, and aware. What would the attentive Master say today to a young DeRose? Would the message be the same as in the book?

    DEROSE–The encounter would produce the same confrontation that I explained in the book, because it was the author at 58 years old, talking with himself at 18. That was it, another story of fiction, in which 18-year-old DeRose appears in the life of DeRose at 58. And, he disagrees with him, he argues, debates. He says, “But it can’t be like this; I do not agree; this can’t be.” And, the dialogue between the young idealist and the man who lived 58 years, attempts to provide a balanced argument between the two points of view, because many of our readers are 18, 20, 25, 30, and many of our readers are 58, 60, 70 and 80. Therefore they are two completely different universes, and the book tries to unite the two, showing that both are correct, and it is largely a matter of perspective.

    MATEUS–Do the two balance out? Are they one and the same? Are they two viewpoints on the same thing? Or, is one more evolved than the other?

    DEROSE–In reality, the two have their prejudices, their preconceptions. Both discriminate and both try not to discriminate. Both intend not to have preconceptions and, thus, the older one learns from the younger, and the younger learns from the older. That is the basic idea of the book.

    MATEUS–We tend to grow as a result of difference. Normally people handle differences very poorly, they defend themselves, reject, oppress, suppress, instead of coming to terms with the differences.

    DEROSE–Yes. And these differences are very important, because–imagine this–if all of my friends only praised me, I would be surrounded by sycophants, like monarchs of the past. What am I going to learn from that? Even when I am wrong, everyone is going to tell me I am right. That would not help me at all. But my critics, today’s critics, are already pointing fingers at me and I haven’t even been able to make a mistake yet.

    So, who is helping me more? Those helping me most are those who might be considered my enemies, but in reality, are more of a friend than my friends, because they show me the dark side of what I am doing or am about to do. They focus on errors and I can correct errors. I have always compared a friend and an enemy with a tree, in which the roots that grow underground in the darkness are the enemies, because they are in the shadows, but without which the trees does not stand. And, the friends are the flowers, the beautiful fruits–wonderful, but without the roots they do not exist.

    MATEUS–Your book Tratado de Yôga,–that was just released in Lisboa–provides an example of this. In the acknowledgments of the book you dedicate it not only to people whom you admire, but also to a particular person that you criticize. Can we talk a little about that?

    (Minute 46:20)

    DEROSE–Sometimes people with ill will–or because they simply are not familiar with the other side, the other truth–attack, slander, insult, hurt, exclude. Therefore, what occurs is: you can consider yourself a victim, you can consider yourself an unhappy person, you can remain resentful. Or, you can understand, with an open mind, that it was very important and be thankful to that person. It is useless to be dishonest. “No, I am very grateful to my enemies,” but to not truly feel that way. So, no, it must be authentic. And that is really sincere.

    If that person had not done all that persecution, which still occurs today, and had they not started his fan club against our work, today our work would be imperceptible. Christianity only became known because it was persecuted. If not it would have been a small Jewish sect that would have disappeared soon thereafter. But the persecution led to visibility, and from that moment on people who shared that point of view became organized and immortalized.

    MATEUS–Is this not what what DeRose Culture describes as ahimsá? Isn’t it like changing bitterness for honey, or is it something much deeper?

    DEROSE–I think it goes deeper. Now, this concept, ahimsá, which is the non-aggression proposed by Gandhi. We don’t apply it in the same manner that Jesus proposed, which was offer the other cheek. It is not that, exactly, but similarly. For example, when someone has an aggressive attitude, we have to be conscious that, if we are mature and self-confident, we have the ability to understand that this other person is being aggressive because they are afraid. People are aggressive when they are afraid.

    If my dog, Jaya, my vegetarian weimaraner, were to come in here wagging his tail, we would say, “How beautiful, come here, let me pet you.” But if Jaya comes in growling, showing teeth, you would immediately say, “Get this animal out of here! If not I am going to throw a rock at it!”

    Why would you have become aggressive? Because you felt fear. It is like this in all situations. By paying attention and analyzing impartially, you will notice that when a person becomes aggressive it is because they were afraid, they felt threatened, they became defensive.

    Therefore, if someone is aggressive with you, you can be aggressive as well, reacting immaturely. That would be something like this, “You were aggressive with me and I am returning the aggression.”

    Or, you can react thoughtfully, as someone with self-esteem and maturity, “You were aggressive with me, I have to understand that you felt attacked by me, but it was not my intention to attack you. You felt threatened by me, but it was not my intention to threaten you. Perhaps you had a terrible day; perhaps you are having matrimonial problems; I don’t know. Perhaps you have difficulties, problems in your life. And I am going to respond with more aggression? That isn’t going to help me. It isn’t going to help our relationship.”

    If it is business affiliation, if it is a friendship, it doesn’t matter. Response with aggression is like trying to fight anger with more anger. It is like trying to fight fire with gasoline. So it doesn’t help. I really liked your phrase change bitterness for honey. It is interesting, because it is in fact more or less that. Because, if the person is aggressive and you offer a smile, a sincere smile, because they can see the difference in your eye, in your facial expression–and not a cynical smile, cynicism is detectable, instinctively, by any person. If you respond with a relaxed facial expression, a sincere smile, the aggression is reduced drastically.

    I remember a situation when two philosophical lines had nearly identical names, but were antagonistic. And, even for that they were antagonistic, because the more similar they seemed, the less compatible they were. Therefore, in this encounter between the two philosophies, a professor of the other line came walking in my direction, pointing her finger and telling me, “DeRose, you are this, you are that!” And she began insulting me and yelling, and she intended that everyone hear.

    Everyone at the convention stopped moving to see how I would react. Could it be that everything he says is a lie? How will he react? Is he going to give it to her good? Will he yell like her, perhaps insult her? Is he gonna be so rude as to turn his back on her and walk away? Or will he stand there listening, letting her insult him, talk-talk-talk, insult-insult-insult? How will he react? So, what was my reaction?

    Imagine the situation. There was time to think. OK. I grabbed the little old lady, embraced her, and when I let her go, she was no longer aggressive. She didn’t have a single insult for me. When I let her go, she looked at me and said, “Ah, DeRose, you are something, huh?” Done. The bitterness left with the sweetness of the hug, without giving the other cheek, without simply, passively, listening to her attack, and without responding with aggression, which in the end would not have helped my relationship with her. It would not have helped my image in front of the others who were observing. Nor would it have helped myself, because that night I would not have slept very well.

    (Minute 53)

    MATEUS–This assumes that the individual that the DeRose Culture aims to sculpt is a coherent individual; they recognize as if they were watching a film of what is about to happen around them, and respond in an active, conscious and lucid manner, and not primitively.

    DEROSE–Exactly. Let’s apply this to the reality of a couple, in a marriage or any relationship. In an intimate relationship, both know well what body language, what tone of voice and what phrase will irritate their partner. They are perfectly aware because they live together. They are so close…and in a conflict between partners, if one of them said that word or made that face, the partner knows exactly what body language, what tone of voice and what word that can please the other, that is going to alleviate the situation. But, why don’t they say it?

    Because, “I am not going to break, I will not give in. If I do they will walk over me.” Therefore it depends on their attitude, to say that word, interrupt the marital conflict that is about to occur and then establish limits. And if the relationship can be saved, it will continue with respect, with consideration, with affection, with companionship. If it cannot be saved, then it is a shame, because all broken relationships have a very high emotional cost, a very high cost in terms of health. But, have patience. There is a magic moment in which relationships really have to end, because that is how they become friends. And if the magic moment passes, and they insist that they have to stay together, perhaps when they separate, they separate as enemies, with resentments. So, sometimes it is simply a question of, today I give a little and tomorrow the other person is going to give a little. Because there is a natural reciprocity within human beings; when someone has a courteous attitude, a noble attitude towards another person, be it intimate, be it a family member, be it a spouse, the tendency is for the other person to react in a similar manner in immediate or future occasion.

    Once I was traveling in a car, a friend was driving and was driving very badly! He made a bad maneuver and another driver almost got into a wreck with us, then stuck his head out the window and was about to say some expletives. But this friend of mine gave him a big smile, as if to say, “Sorry, I made a mistake.” But with a very nice smile. The other driver put his head in the car and said, “Go on son, go on!” And they didn’t argue. What was it that avoided the argument? It was only the smile.

    MATEUS–The importance of being a more conscious, lucid and active individual, on all levels, is this what Your Culture would like to revive in society?

    DEROSE–Exactly. Because the tendency is to put a label on this Culture. I prefer to call it Our Culture or Our System, Our Philosophy, avoiding the use of labels. Why? Because when people use labels, that is when it can become intolerant, even in regard to those on the outside. One of the confusions that I try to correct, one of the distorted perspectives, is that the individual practices the Method in the classroom where they learn the Method. That is where it is learned. It is not where one puts it into practice.

    For example, if we teach how to breathe correctly inside the classroom, when the student goes through the door and leaves, and begins breathing poorly, then it was of no use. So, if they learned how to breathe properly inside the classroom, now they leave breathing correctly, and they walk, breathing correctly, until reaching their car. They get in and begin driving the car, breathing correctly. They arrive at the office and go to work, or arrive at the gym and go to play sports, breathing correctly. They are going to breathe correctly, in a more productive manner, because that is what they learned here.

    I used breathing as an example, but it could be any other technique. This combination of techniques and concepts that are learned at our institution should be applied when you leave, as you said, in all of life’s situations. This is what we try to explain, and try to demonstrate. Such that our student is going to transmit what they learn, they are going to radiate to all of society, because they are going to give off what they learn to their family, friends, and companions at work. This begins creating waves of influence and starts spreading in a positive manner to all of the people with whom they come into contact.

    MATEUS– As Carl Sagan argued that society corrupts the individual, shouldn’t this effect of influence also function in the opposing manner?

    DEROSE–Exactly. We know that it functions from that end to this end. Let’s make it function as well from this end to that end.

    MATEUS–If you were to write now, not “I remember…,” rather “I dream…,” what dream would you write about?

    DEROSE–The truth is that I would not be able to add anything to I Remember because that book came out of me all at once. At seven at night I started to write. At seven in the morning, I said, “I am going to rest a little.” And that was it; I was finished. I wasn’t able to add a single line.

    MATEUS–And “I dream.” What would be in it?

    DEROSE–Well, I don’t know. There are a lot of things. A lot of things!

    MATEUS–Could we attempt to grapple a small part?

    DEROSE–That I hope to one day be able to express it.

    MATEUS–But, you see, surely. We dream that our children will grow up in the world in a direction we determine and configure. Did you not invest 50 years of investigation, in search of knowledge, without knowing where you wanted to arrive? Where is it that you want to arrive?

    DEROSE–I would like to get to a point where people, at the least, listen to what we have to say. That they let us speak. That they don’t muzzle us. Because the big problem that I foresee is that we have very good things to say, not suggesting a debate, rather a reflection.

    What normally happens is that those who do not like the system–or think that they don’t like it–haven’t listened. They haven’t spoken with me, they haven’t spoken with us, they don’t know our people, they haven’t read our books. So my dream would be to take off this restraint. I feel as though I am under ancient punishment, ecclesiastical punishment. “You said what you shouldn’t have, you will not talk anymore.” That is a common feeling for me.

    No one wants me to talk. But you can see that what I say is not controversial. I do not consider it controversial, because we are not argumentative; we are not disagreeing with the others. It is not aggressive; I do not think it is, it is not my intention that it be. I do not attack anyone. And the proposal is good. The proposal is a healthy youth. We work essentially with young adults. Therefore, contributing to a healthy youth, far from drugs, from alcohol and from tobacco, if it was good for nothing else, this would at least be a contribution worthy of recognition, since our work has already been contributing to society for half a century.

    MATEUS–For those of us who visit Your Culture, we are going to do a flash exercise. Your vision or your mission, where is it aimed? Where is the horizon in your life?

    DEROSE–I have known many interesting people, truly great examples of human beings–people with whom I have had the privilege to spend time. Some for more than 30 years, some for more than 20 years, others that I am getting to know now, as in your case, and which I consider a privilege. This profession of ours allows us this–to know people. We are not headhunters, we are heart hunters.

    MATEUS–Thanks!

    DeRose |

    Thank you, John. I would like to ask our friends to read and review it. Kisses.

  7. Autor: cheila

    Já viu o que seria de nós se passássemos uma vida inteira a comer a mesma coisa?

    Beijo Mestre *******

  8. Autor: Renata

    Olá, Mestre! Tenho uma irmã veterinária e gostaria de complementar alguns dos fatos citados por você… Alguns veterinários recomendam dar refeição ao animal e depois retirá-la porque as rações (com carne e derivados) são sensíveis ao calor, umidade e não devem ficar expostas por muito tempo pois estragam e podem gerar infecções nos animais… Além disso o que comemos nem sempre é indicado à dieta dos nossos cães e gatos, por causa do tempero (sal, óleo…). O ideal seria preparar os alimentos dos animais com o mesmo cuidado com preparamos os nossos e de acordo com as necessidades deles. Quanto às rações vegetarianas, elas são balanceadas de forma a não gerar deficiência de nutrientes aos animais e são realmente muito boas…
    Ah! e talvez 99% seja um valor muito alto. Existem muitos veterinários que se dedicam ao bem estar dos animais, é só procurar…
    Grande abraço e até dia 28/02

  9. Concordo plenamente, desde que mudei a ração da minha cachorra, a Céline para a vegetariana (fridog), ela ficou mais ativa e disposta. Até as tias que cuidam dela no pet, elogiaram. Agora uma delas que tem uma labradora, também está querendo adotar a ração vegetariana.
    A Piaf minha gatinha, adora roubar a ração da Céline para comer também, já escrevi para uma distribuidora na Italia pedindo para que abram uma representante de rações vegetarianas no Brasil.

    Bjs
    Regina- Curitiba PR Brasil

  10. Autor: Renata - Goiânia - Unidade Oeste

    Olá, Mestre! Tenho uma irmã veterinária e gostaria de complementar alguns dos fatos citados por você… Alguns veterinários recomendam dar refeição ao animal e depois retirá-la porque as rações (com carne e derivados) são sensíveis ao calor, umidade e não devem ficar expostas por muito tempo pois estragam e podem gerar infecções nos animais… Além disso o que comemos nem sempre é indicado à dieta dos nossos cães e gatos, por causa do tempero (sal, óleo…). O ideal seria preparar os alimentos dos animais com o mesmo cuidado com preparamos os nossos e de acordo com as necessidades deles. Quanto às rações vegetarianas, elas são balanceadas de forma a não gerar deficiência de nutrientes aos animais e são realmente muito boas…
    Ah! e talvez 99% seja um valor muito alto. Existem muitos veterinários que se dedicam ao bem estar dos animais, é só procurar…
    Grande abraço e até dia 28/02

    DeRose |

    Fico feliz que a sua irmãzinha faça parte do 1% das honrosas exceções. Mas, realmente, não passa dessa percentagem. Para seu alívio, preciso reconhecer que a percentagem dos bons profissionais é mais ou menos essa também para os médicos, engenheiros, arquitetos, advogados, mecânicos de automóveis, pintores de parede, encanadores, eletricistas e… instrutores de Yôga. Quanto aos médicos veterinários, quantos há no mercado? Tenho essa curiosidade. Quantos se dedicam à pecuária e quantos a animais de estimação? Se puder me informar, poderei reavaliar o percentual.
    Sobre a inconveniência do sal, óleo etc. para cães, devemos lembrar-nos de que tais ingredientes também não são bons para o ser humano. Logo, uma pessoa culta e bem-informada, também há de reduzir tais componentes ao mínimo possível na sua alimentação, o que a tornará adequada aos peludos.
    B-jokas para você e para a maninha.

  11. Mestre encontrei uma receita de ração vegetariana para gatos, parece bem fácil e nutritiva.
    Receita de ração caseira vegetariana para gatos.

    *Meio quilo da abóbora
    *Meio quilo de cenoura ou beterraba
    *Um molho de espinafre batido no liquidificador
    *Duas xícaras de arroz integral
    Mistura tudo e cozinhe bem até a abóbora fica bem mole.
    Se quiser pode adicionar à mistura um pouco de farinha de casca de ovo.
    Está mistura não deve ser congelada e agüenta, em média, 5 dias na geladeira.

    Abços
    Regina- Curitiba-PR

    DeRose |

    E os bichanos gostam? Se apreciarem, é perfeito. Se não, basta acrescentar leite ou queijo em proporção suficiente para motivar o paladar.

  12. Autor: paulinho

    Muito bom seu post sobre animais de estimação! As vezes, infelizmente, não conseguimos nos colocar no lugar deles.

    Queria aproveitar e dizer que hoje, dia 14, é aniversário do nossa amigo e diretor Gustavo Cardoso, diretor da escola de Londres. Fizemos um jantar com os instrutores residentes em Londres e ainda com a presença do Mestre Carlos Cardoso, que está na Europa para uma jornada de cursos por várias cidades.

    Um beijo e muita saudade,
    Paulinho – London

    DeRose |

    Parabéns, Gustavo! Você já tem uma vida de realizações e marcou as cidades e países por onde passou, mas meus votos são para que continue e até faça mais. De coração, desejo-lhe amizades sinceras (como a minha) e que formem pátina. Muito carinho, felicidade e prosperidade.

  13. Autor: Mauro Bex

    Que bom ler as suas palavras Mestre.

    Sempre achei estranho essa história de uma única refeição por dia, pois não faz sentido. Por isso a Maggie (linda boxer) sempre teve comida à sua disposição o dia inteiro. Ela come quando sente vontade, e se notamos que ela já comeu muito em determinado dia, basta não colocar mais ração.
    Como a Maggie só se tornou vegetariana aos 7 anos, ela não pega muito em vegetais e frutas, mas adora iogurte, queijo e, claro, biscoitos sem carne. Basta dizer “biscoito” e já assume postura de que virá coisa boa :)

    Aproveito a oportunidade para falar do exemplo da Maggie em como tornar os nossos amigos de 4 patas vegetarianos sem problema algum. Ela passou a comer mais, não precisou de processo nenhum de transição com metade de um tipo de ração, metade do outro, passou a ter um pêlo constantemente brilhante, ficou muito mais cheirosa, o hálito melhorou muito e ficou mais forte e feliz.

    Mais uma vez Mestre, obrigado pelo exemplo que nos deu com a Jaya, para tornar os nossos “filhotes” mais felizes e aumentar bastante a sua vitalidade e longevidade.

    Um abraço enorme!

    DeRose |

    Fiquei bem feliz com o seu testemunho. Ele é importante para os “papais e mamães” que ainda estiverem receosos de mudar o paradigma da alimentação de seus anjinhos peludos.

  14. Autor: Rafael Schoenfelder

    Uma pena mesmo, parece que o curso de veterinária só ensina a trabalhar no açougue…

    Obrigado pela dicas.
    Aqui em casa temos uma fox paulistinha e tenho dado pedaços de maçã e cenoura pra que ela possa variar um pouco sua alimentação.

    Abração
    Rafael Schoenfelder
    Curitiba Pr

    DeRose |

    Experimente dar maçã gelada e cenoura congelada, que fica dura e parece osso para ela roer. Além disso, serve como sorvete, já que a cenoura é docinha.

  15. Autor: romulojusta

    Olá Mestre,

    Outro cuidado é com as tosas e banhos, já presenciei cenas depreciativas de pessoas grosseiras lavando cachorrinhos como se fossem trapos… em pet shops!

    Escolha um veterinário como quem escolhe um médico para um filho… pois é exatamente isto que está fazendo :)

    Beijos e lambidas agradecidas do meu yorkshire, o Genaro.

    Rômulo Justa
    Unidade Dom Luís – Fortaleza/Ceará

    DeRose |

    Jaya leu seu comentário e envia uma lambida ao Genaro. É que ela ainda não sabe escrever.

  16. Autor: Anahi Flores

    Não tinha parado para reflectir neste assunto… mas é realmente incrível.

    Beijinhos e boa noite!
    Anahí
    Buenos Aires

  17. Autor: Rita Rosa

    Bom dia Mestre querido,

    Quero apenas agradecer-lhe com todo o coração pelo tanto que nos dá em cada dia e enviar-lhe um beijo enorme cheio de amor, carinho, reconhecimento e tantas outras coisas dificeis de explicar.

    Rita Rosa, Unidade Amadora, Portugal

    DeRose |

    Obrigado, Rita. Beijinhos.

  18. Autor: Ana Maria Marreiros

    Lindo Mestre, sempre atento para que os nossos
    amiguinhos de quatro patas tenham uma vida de
    bem estar, conforto, satisfação e até têm um espaço
    para ir fazer as suas necessidades e aprender a comer
    só quando é necessário. A isso chama-se auto-suficiência,
    aplica-se lindamente o termo SwáSthya!!!

    Um abraço muito Português. Felizmente já tive a
    oportunidade de abraçar a querida Feé aqui na unidade.

    DeRose |

    Obrigado, querida. Retribuo-lhe com um abraço muito Paulistano.

  19. Autor: Caio Melo

    Acho incrível como algumas pessoas agem da forma que você mencionou neste post e até fazendo coisas piores com os bichinhos. O pior é que submetem o ser inocente a tudo isso só para satisfazer o capricho de “ter um animal de estimação”. Seria melhor se admitissem que não podem priorizar os cuidados com o bichinho e optassem por não tê-lo.

    O ônus de ter ego, porém, é ser egoísta, né?

    Um abração matinal.

    Caio Melo
    Unidade Kobrasol – Florianópolis/SC

  20. Autor: Anahi Flores

    Bom dia Mestre!
    Continuei pensando neste post.
    Esta é mais uma das tantas contradições do ser humano em relação aos animais…
    Outra contradição é, por exemplo, “cuidar” (ou achar que cuidam) dos animais de estimação, e assassinar outros para se alimentar com as suas carnes.

    Beijinhos da
    Anahí
    Buenos Aires

    DeRose |

    Verdade.

  21. Autor: Nico Attias

    Mestre !
    Prueben con el helado, aca en mendoza a los nuestros les encanta el dulce de leche granizado… ;) y nunca se enferman !
    Por más que el veterinario no lo recomiende, jejeje.

    Besosssss

    DeRose |

    Gracias por la información, Nico. Pero, no les permita comer mucho ni con frequéncia. Besotes.

  22. Obrigada pela dica do queijo, quando fizer novamente vou acrescentar. Concordo que com queijo tudo fica mais saboroso.
    Bjs
    Regina

    DeRose |

    Disponha. B-jokas.

  23. Autor: gustavo321

    Pois e Mestre,

    Aos 15 anos, oriundo do mundo rural, eu fiz curso de técnico em agropecuária em Pelotas e a alimentação e uma das torturas que fazemos aos animais e que a humanidade continua cega para isso.
    Houve uma época que discobriu-se que podiam alimentar vacas com jornal velho pois elas digerem a celulose do papel, portanto eles usavam o jornal como massa de alimento e só acrescentavam as vitaminas e sais minerais. Como já imaginamos o custo de alimentar os animais assim era drasticamente menor e essa criação, tida como a descoberta do século, foi uma moda que passou rápido e que logo foi cortada do meio.
    Nasceu dai a doença da vaca louca uma das fontes de nutrientes dadas as vacas era feita de restos da própria carne de vaca.
    Naquela época eu me perguntava que gosto teria tinta de jornal, e, pior: quais seriam os efeitos de estarmos tomando leite, comendo queijos e carnes feitos de tinta de jornal?

    Lamentavelmente estas atrocidades com a alimentação, são absolutamente nada quando começamos a falar dos tratos, do abate e da medicina em termos de sofrimento Mestre.

    Não sei se as pessoas sabem destes dados, mas os matadouros estão sempre procurando gente nova para trabalhar no abate pois ninguém aguenta passar 8 horas do dia, ou mais, ouvindo sofrimento, vendo sangue e matando, ou os matadores pedem demissão ou entram em depressão.

    Convido a todos a que assistam o vídeo que esta sendo divulgado por Sir Paul Mcarteney:

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    Homo-sapiens feito a imagem e semelhança do criador?
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    Obrigado pelo aniversario Mestre.
    Beijos
    Gus

  24. Autor: Chrystine Omori - São Paulo, SP -Brasil

    Konnichiwa, Mestre, Fée & egrégora!^-^
    Aqui em casa, por falta de uma, são quatro cachorrinhas (Miss Piggy, Pituca, Linda e Barbie) que preferem queijo e frutas à carne (de qualquer tipo), ainda que não tenham se tornado vegetarianas (ainda, mas chegarão lá no que depender de mim) ;)

  25. Hey galera!

    For those of you interested in offering suggestions to improve my English translation of the DeRose interview by A. Mateus, just let me know and I would be happy to send anyone the latest version.

    Feel free to write me, john.chisenhall@metododerose.org.

    Sincerely,
    Instr. John Chisenhall
    Sede Decana – Argentina

  26. Autor: Valter

    Mestre Querido,

    Fiquei mesmo super feliz sobre este post sobre essas “pessoas peludas” que tanto amamos e merecem o nosso carinho e conforto.
    Recentemente eu e a Sá fomos levar nossa gatinha Lôlitta para ser castrada e foi quando eu (ainda leigo no assunto, pois ela é meu primeiro animal de estimação) perguntei a veterinária sobre tornar nossa Lôlitta vegetariana, e ela veementemente alertou-me com a seguinte afirmação: “Não, não, os gatos não podem ser vegetarianos, precisam de carne e blá blá blá…”
    Eu, por não ter conhecimento sobre tal assunto, calei-me e aceitei sua opinião e passei a dar uma ração indicada pela veterinária que possue menos % de carne e que se chama Cat Chow.
    Resumindo, nós sempre brincamos que a Lôlitta quer ser vegeratiana, pois está sempre a querer comer nossas comidinhas, e adora tomate, milho, arroz, rúcula, pão, biscoitos, massas, tremoços, etc. Então, depois deste post do Mestre, não há dúvidas. Vou ja pesquisar sobre os links citados acima e tornar nossa Lôlitta mais saudável e feliz.
    Se o Mestre tiver alguma opinião sobre como devo proceder, agradeceria.
    Um grande beijo com saudades
    Valter Figueiredo
    Porto – Portugal

    DeRose |

    Olá, Valter. Consulte o comentário da Regina Zarling (aqui no blog) sobre uma receita que ela usa para seus gatos. Beijos.

  27. Autor: Sol Montenegro

    Qué interesante Maestro, nunca me había puesto a pensar en esto, yo tengo una gatita siamesa que come muchas frutas, le encantan, pero no conseguí alimento vegetariano para ella, sabés si en Brasil existe?

    Besos y gracias!

    Sol

    Sede Palermo
    Buenos Aires

    DeRose |

    Consulte el comentário de Regina Zarling sobre un alimento vegetariano que ella prepara para su gata. Pesquisando en Google encontré diversos sites que hablan sobre alimentos vegetarianos y hasta veganos para perros y gatos. Besitos, querida.

  28. Autor: Claus Haas

    Minha cachorrinha também é vegetariana. Tem uma energia inesgotável!

    Abração,
    Claus, São Bernardo, SP.

  29. Autor: Alan Hecktor

    Certa vez ouvi essa história de um amigo.

    Ele conhece uma professora de veterinária, que também administrava sua loja de mascotes (menos bonito de se visualizar do que petshop, não é mesmo?). Administrava até começar a estudar uma maneira menos agressiva e mais respeitosa com a natureza do animal. A primeira atitude que tomou, foi não permitir que cada cão/cliente tomasse banho mais que uma vez por semana. Conforme ela foi se conscientizando do quanto a natureza do pobre animal era violada, ela não teve dúvidas, fechou a loja.

  30. Autor: Leilane Lobo

    Pôxa Mestre, que sensibilidade.
    São coisas ‘bvias e eu nunca parei pra pensar, como me sinto péssima! Quanta pena estou da minha Brisa (poodle)…

    Adorei a lista dos locais, aqui em Fortaleza, já procurei muito, vou ver se consigo encontrar agora com essas indicações.

    Beijos enoooormes!

    Instra. Leilane Lobo
    Fortaleza/CE

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  33. Autor: gi.veterinaria

    Olá, meu nome é Gisele e sou veterinária. Me desculpe o que vou dizer, mas para mim a Medicina Veterinária foi criada para cuidar dos animais, por isso mesmo tratamos de patologias que eles têm para seu bem, não só de zoonoses. Pode ser que existam sim veterinários (principalmente os dedicados aos grandes animais e animais de fazenda) que trabalham na área de criação de animais para o consumo humanos e etc, mas não devemos generalizá-los. Cada um escolhe sua área e nem por isso temos que concordar, mas não devemos esquecer dos veterinários que fazem tudo para o bem de todos os animais.
    Por exemplo, o uso da ração não é recomendado pela praticidade do ser humano, claro que não!!!!! Aliás, seria muito mais barato e fácil dar restos de nossa comida. Recomendamos ração justamente por ser nutricionalmente equilibrada para cada espécie e raça, para que não falte componentes esseciais, falta de nutrientes e vitaminas que pode culminar em várias doenças. E recomendar que ofereça ração 1 vez só ao dia é um absurdo!!! Isso não existe, tanto que nas embalagens de ração determina-se oferecer a quantidade exata em gramas de ração por peso dividida em duas ou três vezes ao dia. Há animais que NÃO PODEM ter a ração à disposição todo o tempo, pois a obesidade É UMA DOENÇA GRAVE, que mata!!!!! Nós estudamos a vida inteira pelo bem-estar animal, nunca faríamos nada para o seu mal, se fizéssemos teríamos escolhido outra profissão. Quem não tem o dom de ser veterinário, não consegue ser, pois isso taaaaantas pessoas desistem. Vivo para e com os animais, para que todos tenham saúde e tenham suas dores aliviadas.
    Gisele Passos
    (gipassos.vet@gmail.com)

    DeRose |

    Obrigado, Gisele, por ser como você é e por pensar dessa forma. É raro encontrarmos um bom [completar aqui com o nome de qualquer profissão, de médico ou arquiteto a eletricista ou instrutor de Yôga]. Por isso, quando encontramos um profissional consciencioso queremos indicá-lo aos nossos amigos. Assim, peço que – se você assim o desejar – divulgue a cidade em que trabalha e um meio de comunicação para que nossos cães e gatos possam contar com mãos responsáveis para cuidar deles.

  34. Autor: Jhu

    Oi Mestre, gostaria que me indicasse seu veterinário, ou melhor, veterinário da Jaya : ). Tenho um filhote de Yorkshire e muitas dúvidas quanto a alimentação, nãosei, por exemplo se posso dar a ração vegetariana para o filhote uma vez que na embalagem esta escrito que é para cães adultos.
    Obrigada

    bjos

    Juliana

    DeRose |

    Nosso vetereinário é o Rafa e está na Irlanda. Mas ele acompanhou a Jaya desde pequena. Ela sempre comeu ração vegetariana, complementada por queijo branco desnatado, iogurte, maçãs, bananas, mangas etc. Quando bem pequena, a ração era amolecida com água morna. Depois não foi mais necessário. Leite foi desaconselhado por ele, mas queijo e iogurte, tudo bem.

    Depois que ela ficou adulta, comecei a dar também a nossa comida em partes iguais com a ração, às vezes misturada, às vezes em momentos diferentes.

    Sempre desconfio de todas as rações, pois há uma denúncia de que as rações estão dando câncer. Espero que a vegetariana não tenha esse inconveniente. Mas, por via das dúvidas, procuro dar em menor proporção. Já o veterinário, ele confia na ração e recomenda que seja pelo menos 70% da dieta.

    Beijos.

  35. Autor: glaucia lupatelli

    Oi,
    Adorei o Texto! é bem isso mesmo!as pessoas querem adaptar os bichinhos à sua rotina louca de vida..aqui em casa tb fiz isso..deixei na lavanderia um espaço com jornais e o Tony – meu golden de tres meses – é super educado kkk faz tudo direitinho lá..e trocar os jornais não é nada perto do conforto e bem estar dele..ainda estou dando ração normal – uso a da Royal canin para golden retriver..pelo menos me disseram que é super premiun e uma das melhores..mas penso em mudar para alguma vegetariana..ele tb come frutas..ama maçã, melão, mamão, pera rs..adora roer uma cenoura..ainda não dei yogurte nem queijo..preciso ver o quanto posso dar..como seria o ideal pra ele..se alguém puder me dar alguma dica..agradeço muito..abraço meu e mail é glaucia.jo@hotmail.com

    DeRose |

    A única ração vegetariana de verdade fabricada no Brasil até a presente data é a Fri-Dog. Não tenho o endereço de cabeça mas ele está publicado no meu livro “Meu nome é Jaya – Sou uma weimaraner vegetariana” e também no “Anjos Peludos” . É high premium.

    Você pode dar legumes cozidos, hortaliças sem tempero (misturadas com outras coisas apetitosas) e frutas doces à vontade. Queijos brancos light, yogurte sem açúcar e ovos cozidos, moderadamente. Eu nunca dei queijos todos os dias e só dei ovos cozidos de vez em quando.

    Se você der comida várias vezes por dia, o cão não fica ansioso e come só o necessário. Se isso não ocorrer, vá observando o peso dele. Se engordar, reduza a quantidade.

    Se engordar, ele pode desenvolver uma série de doenças, entre elas diabetes e displasia.

    Relembro que não sou veterinário, portanto, tudo o que eu digo são opiniões leigas de quem tem cão e procura se informar.

    Abração.

  36. Email do Dr Carlos Augusto Marins:

    Gostaria de ofertar a um grande amigo, adepto e praticante de yôga, a medalaha ÔM cunhada por vocês.
    Estou no Rio de Janeiro. Como é possível adquirir uma?
    Desde já, obrigado. Fico no aguardo da resposta

    Dr Carlos Augusto Marins
    Cirurgia Geral / Oncológica
    Coordenador Cir. Digestiva HFSE

    Enviado via iPhone

    DeRose |

    Estimado Amigo Dr. Carlos Augusto Marins.

    Qualquer das nossas escolas do Rio de Janeiro em princípio devem ter a medalha com o ÔM. Os telefones são: Leblon, 2259-8243; Copacabana, 2255-4243.

    Se não conseguir no Rio, pode solicitar para São Paulo, (11) 3081-9821.

    Caso não consiga, por favor volte a entrar em contato que irei pessoalmente procurar um lugar que tenha.

    Se eu demorar a responder seus e-mails, é porque eu propriamente não uso esse meio de comunicação devido à imensa quantidade de correspondência que chega por e-mail, mas tenho uma pessoa que o administra para mim.

    De qualquer forma, estou ao seu inteiro dispor.

    Um forte abraço do DeRose.

  37. Autor: Lidia

    Bom dia Mestre
    Me tornei vegetariana há 1 ano e tenho uma shih tzu de 4 meses. Ela veio com 2 meses comendo ração normal mas decidi trocar para a fridog vegetariana há cerca de uma semana. O problema é que não consigo encontrar um veterinário que abrace a causa vegetariana e me oriente ja que a ração é para adultos e ela ainda é filhote. Também não posso usar sua técnica de complementar a ração com diversos alimentos pois é uma raça pequena, ela esta com 2,7kg, e não posso exagerar na quantidade de alimento. Queria muito conversar com um veterinario que pudesse me orientar sobre a necessidade de suplementação, nem que fosse via e-mail.
    Tomara que este post me ajude a encontrar um profissional sensato que não se limite a me dizer para deixar de complicar as coisas e usar uma das ótimas rações super premium de carne para filhotes que estão disponíveis no mercado.
    Conto com a colaboração da egregora para conseguir uma orientação e manter minha filhota vegetariana sem medo de prejudicar seu desenvolvimento.
    Abraços!
    Lidia.

    DeRose |

    Eu sempre usei a ração de adulto para a minha filhota desde os 45 dias. apenas, dosei em quantidades menores e, como era muito pequena, eu colocava água quente para amolecer os grão da ração. Quanto à complementação com a nossa comida e um pouco de queijo branco light, frutas etc., basta colocar pouquinho de cada coisa. Vou ver se encontro o telefone do nosso veterinário e te passo. Beijos.

    DeRose |

    Aí vai o telefone do nosso Veterinário: Dr. Rafael Ricardi, (11) 981468750. Seria simpático não fazer consulta por telefone e sim marcar uma consulta. Caso você não seja de São Paulo, venha passear aqui, ou pergunte se ele indica algum colega na sua cidade.

    Boa sorte com a filhota.

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